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Skyrim+ Mini Guide / Immersive 100 mod collection
Intro and backgroundHello! I came back to Skyrim after a few years and decided to utilize the power and might of Skyrim mods and their awesome modders to make the game feel almost like it was made today. I quickly realised there is shit-ton of great mods and I was lost. What? Which? Will it work together? Do I need this and that? As I was modding I was writing down notes for myself. Then I felt that some people (beginners / first time modders) may benefit from them. So I tried to make those notes into a relatively quick and easy guide. A collection of overhauls and improvements, not too much, but enough to feel it. Guide is intended for people that want to get a handle on enhanced Skyrim, but without need to spend a lot of time browsing mods and learning about compatibility and modding. Yes I found some great guides with beginner recommendations, but I felt every guide was either too short or too long (number of mod-wise), or limited only to some specific part of the game. I felt like there was a space for this guide.
I accept feedback indeed. This is my first big post and guide so please be gentle. I know it's far from perfect. It should give people a good headstart though. Hope it's not complete shit, yikes.
As a rule of thumb I prefer more popular and downloaded mods.
In this guide "Mini" means no long and elaborate paragraphs about installation and mod handling. I realize that 100 mods is not that "mini", but for example STEP guide have about 273 mods... so it's still small compared to other guides covering multiple aspects of the game I guess.
This is still work in progress.
I know some text here is redundant and sloppy in style, I will try to upgrade it. Also working on better assignment of mods to Content and Gameplay category but that's a detail and optimal installation order is more important to me (some mods have installation options for other mods).
Will try to get it to 100 ASAP and then will do a lot of thinking about replacing some with better alternatives or removing some in favour of something completely different with more value per "slot".
Also feel free to suggest better alternatives for any mod here. Although some things are highly subjective so I may or may not replace them. Yep, I feel like I would use some help to complete this collection / pack ;)
Is there any conflict/ issue that needs patching and I overlooked it or I simply f**cked up with some mod combination? Please let me know!
Because of my time restraints I can't provide any tech support. But will gladly answer questions whenever I get to them. My response time to questions and comments may be far from instant though. Sorryyyyy!
Choice is yours, dont forget to check out other beautiful guides to see what suits you the most!
STEP Skyrim SE Guide
TUCOGUIDE - Modlist guide and tutorial for Mod Organizer 2
The Phoenix Flavour - A Modding Guide for Skyrim SE or https://thephoenixflavour.com/
The Northern Experience - Skyrim Modding Guide
Skyrim Roleplay Enhancement Modding Guide (SkyRem Guide)
Skyrim+ Mini guide for Beginners / Immersive 100 (96 at the moment) mod collection for SkyrimBig thanks and much love for all the people who made mods listed here! Dont forget support mods you love!
*** 5 Very Important Things! **\*
CHECK if you use
Skyrim Legendary Edition (Former release 2011) shortcut name SLE or LE
Skyrim Special Edition (Bethesda remake from 2016) shortcut SSE or SE
Both of them include all expansions (Danwguad, Hearthfire, Dragonborn), but Legendary edition needs high-res texture packs to look okay so make sure you have them (Any computer nowadays can handle Legendary with high-res on max).
ALWAYS search mods for YOUR edition. If you have Legendary, search just Skyrim. If you have Special edition search for Skyrim Special Edition
This guide lists Special Edition Mods! Many SE mods have LE Equivalent, but not all them, that means you Can use this guide also for LE to get a good idea, but its not the same.
Make sure that you have "Visual C++ Redistributables (2015/2017/2019)" installed in your PC. It is very likely you have, just check.
This is intended for clean instal. Please backup your game saves and ini files, in case you apply this to your existing game and something goes wrong. I do not hold any responsibility if you break your existing saves or game.
Keep it simple ideology and what is this guide aboutKeep stable 60+ FPS
Keep number of manually installed mods at minimum
Keep number of mods that need a patch at minimum
Keep number of mods have dependencies (outside "must have section") at minimum
Keep maximum compatibility with minimal effort
Keep maximum of 100 mods*
No need for custom patching - bashing/ smashing (use only existing reliable patches)
Keep instructions brief and straightforward
*(Why? Because it supposed to be easy and manageable to setup over the weekend)
For who is this guide for?
For beginners. For first time modders that want just to upgrade their game in a very convenient way and enjoy playing modded Skyrim ASAP. For very lazy people that dont want to deal with much information about modding/ mod compatibility. This is Mini guide. Simple, lightweight, without any need to manage mods.
What content to expect?
Something out of every corner. I tried to include fix/ improvement/ overhaul/ expanse on every major part of the game. A collection of overhauls and improvements.
That means NPCs behave better, animals behave better, combat is better (harder, but can be adjusted), there is one added collection of each weapons, armors, spells, animals and a few NPSc, there is upgraded perk tree, character creation menu. All this to create a feeling of Skyrim if it was "made today". Skyrim, just better, with more realistic, immersive experience. Skyrim+
I list here only mods that I consider absolutely lore Friendly! I list mods that expand on Vanilla game BUT only to the extent that it doesn't change the mood and feel of the game. That is a very subjective thing I know. But I consider myself to be more conservative than not.
What not to expect?
Anything that doesn't fit into Skyrim lore and atmosfere. Anything crazy. Anything related to adult mods. No survival modes, or mods that alter gameplay too much. In terms of environment visuals, I tried to make the best of lightweight, very performance friendly mods.
This is NOT ENB mod list. If you want ENB, check other guides.
InstallationI list mods in order that ensures best compatibility, it is better to install mods that are higher in list before mods that are below them! I'm trying here to make easy list only with fully compatible mods or mods requiring only easy patching which can be done by anyone.
Let mods later in list override mods earlier in list in case of file conflict. If you don't do it, it will not break the game, you will only lose textures or mod functionality/ features.
Installation instructions for each mod are on their nexusmods webpages. You should read them and follow them. Dont worry, they are super simple most of the time - like just downloading and installing it with a manager.
Start with downloading and installing Vortex (mod manager) * - its new and updated Nexus mod manager aka NMM. This is essential for properly installing your mods and easily keeping them automatically organized and functional.* You have to create an account on nexusmods to download mods directly with Vortex manager which is strongly recommended. Just check download folder settings so you download into drive where you have enough space. Watch any Nexus install tutorial video on youtube if you have any troubles.
After Essential mod section, you dont have to install all the mods listed here. I listed mods requiring another mod in the list. Otherwise you can pick what you like and leave out what you dont want.
*(Why Vortex and no Mod Organizer 2? (If you dont care, skip this text) I used both for some time and I use MO2 for my bulkier builds. Although I feel like Vortex is really foolproof and sufficient for purpose of this guide. This guide is all about "just download, install and play". It assumes user wont be installing a lot of other mods not listed here. If user decide to do a lot more of modding, I absolutely agree MO2 is better choice. In that case I recommend to start with new, clean installation of the game since this guide doesnt do any preparation for extensive modding. Check STEP guide for that, its an amazing, jaw dropping extensive guide)
Essential Mods and fixesAll mods listed in this section have Zero Impact on FPS!
Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE) - 64x version for Special Edition (classic is for Legendary edition and), a lof of mods need this one to work
Address Library For SKSE Plugins - Addon for SKSE
Unofficial Skyrim patch - Reffered to also as USSEP
SkyUI - Better inventory system
Better Dialog Controls - Fix
Better MessageBox Controls - Fix
Dragonborn Enhanced Main Menu Overhaul SSE (this includes No Bethesda Intro)
Cutting Room Floor - Adds back some stuff that from Skyrim LE that was cut out in SE
.NET Script Framework
Bug Fixes SSE - Bug fix
SSE Engine Fixes - Bug Fix, part 2 requires additional manual installation (yes you need both parts)
Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice - Silent/ no voice dialoge support for other mods with unvoiced dialoge, usefull for future modding (optional) (note to myself: is it needed here?)
Dragon stalking fix -Bug fix
Invisibility and Eyes Mesh Fix by HHaleyy - Bug fix
Flora Respawn Fix - Bug fix
Skyrim Project Optimization SE - reconsidering - is it needed?
BethINI - Helps to manage graphical preferences, requires Easy manual download and use
UtilityFont Overhaul - Natural Typefaces for Skyrim
Immersive HUD - iHUD Special Edition - HUD improvement
SkyHUD - HUD improvement
moreHUD Inventory Edition - HUD improvement
moreHUD SE - HUD improvement
Unread Books Glow SSE - So you dont open up the same book 100x times
Stay at System Page (updated) - When you press ESC you will get system page instead of quest page
GIST - Genuinely Intelligent Soul Trap SE - This changes the soul trap spells and enchantments so you dont lose big souls when big soul gem is filled with small soul
Whose Quest Is It Anyway - Swaps the "Quest items cannot be removed..." message for a more descriptive message informing you which quest the item belongs to.
Even Better Quest Objectives SE - EBQO SE
Timing is Everything SE - for full potential, install this first: click here
The Choice is Yours - You can decline a quest, a little patch click here (file: Cutting Room Floor __ TCIY)
Pastel Map Markers - Reconsidering - low value for slot?
Visual/ Graphical modsQuality World Map
Static Mesh Improvement - Important texture improvement (1gb)
Enhanced Lights and FX - Massive light system overhaul. Optional ELFX fixes
Skyrim 2020 Parallax - Very high qualiy textures (please also download SSE Parallax Shader Fix mod to make most of this mod) (5gb)
Ruins Clutter Improved
Weather Mods - Choose only ONE! Watch some videos on youtube to see which one you like.
I like / subjectively recommend these 2
Vivid Weathers Definitive Edition
Cathedral Weathers and Seasons - (I use this one currently) inspired by Aequinoctium and Obsidian, solid rival to Vivid W.
There are many others. Some are more fantasy (more color, contrast and saturation) and others are more realistic (less color saturation and contrast): Dolomite Weathers Obsidian Weathers and Seasons Aequinoctium Weathers & Seasons Natural & Atmospheric Tamriel Rustic Weathers & Lighting ... and can find moreLanters of Skyrim SE - more immersion
Realistic Water Two - Nicer water
DYNAVISION SE - Dynamic Depth of Field (feat. STATIC mode) - requires small Easy manual edit of Skyrimprefs.ini (set bDoDepthOfField=1).
Nordic Snow (aka HQ Snow Texture)
Better Dynamic Snow SE - Requires small Easy manual edit of SkyrimPrefs.ini file (set bEnableProjecteUVDiffuseNormals=1).
Blended Roads - nicer roads
Majestic Mountains - Cathedral Concept - REQUIRES "Blended Roads". There are two meshes conflicting with ELFX, use the EFLX files.
Skyrim Flora Overhaul
Skyrim Is Windy - Trees and grass move in wind
Blowing in the Wind - Signs and lanterns move in wind
Total Character Makeover - Nicer characters
RS Children Overhaul - Nicer children
LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons SE
Frozen Electrocuted Combustion - REQUIRES "Papyrus Extender for SSE", optionally requiressome shaders for falmer and giants.
AudioUnofficial High Definition Audio Project - High fidelity music and sound mix
Lucidity Sound FX SSE - FX / ambience sounds remaster and remix
Sounds of Skyrim - Complete Edition - MCM - Adss new, immersive sound effects. Needs readjustment after changing ELFX installation settings
Audio Overhaul for Skyrim SE - Focuses on mechanism of sound (e.g. reverb, attentuation) and ambience
Immersive Sounds - Compendium - Focuses on item interaction sounds (weapons, magic, other items). Needs patch for Audio Overhaul, click here. Also needs patches with Enhanced Blood textures and MorrowLoot, dont worry I remind you when you get to them.
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Aka RDO SE, adds a lot more dialog to NPCs to make it less more repetitive
True 3D Sound for Headphones - if you intend to play with headphones. Manual install only
Content modsWearable Lanterns - Will come in handy with ELFX hardcore or graphical options that darkens game and especially dungeons a lot. If you get ingame Error message dont worry. Easy fix: "Chesko's Wearable Lanterns - SE and VR Patch"
The Paarthurnax Dilemma - Little mod modifiying small part of main story line to give you one more option (you will understand when you reach that part of game)
RaceMenu - Enhanced character creation (its like Sims in Skyrim LOL)
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim - More magic (compatibility patch with Ordinator in Optional files, install patch after Ordinator - will remind you)
Immersive Weapons - More weapons
Immersive Armors - More armors
Cloaks of Skyrim
Improved closefaced helmets - visual fix
Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes - This mod fixes bugs and incorrect settings for Skyrim's weapons and armors. Patch, click here (file: Improved Closefaced Helmets __ WACCF AND Immersive Weapons __ WACCF)
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition - Mod includes patch for "Improved closefaced helmets", check that box when installing. Install also bug fix patch - click here (yes, there is another one patch for "Improved closefaced helmets").
SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators SE - Fully compatible with Immersive creatures
VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE - More killmoves! REQUIRES JContainers SE!
Guard Dialogue Overhaul SE - Load order - after Immersive armors and Weapons
GameplayRealistic Ragdolls and Force - Physics adjustment
Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE
Not So Fast - Main Quest - Timing adjustment to improve immersion
Not So Fast - Mage Guild - Timing adjustment to improve immersion
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
Immersive Patrols - better AI
Trade and Barter - Item value and bartering balancing
Follower Trap Safety - WTF are you doing Lydia?!
Better Stealth AI for Followers - Lydia stop trying to kill me, seriously!
Wet and Cold - Adds immersion with wet and cold weather influencing NPC behavior
Get snowy - When it is snowing, you can see snow on your character
Run For Your Lives - Small mod that makes citizens run away from dragon
Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE
Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim - Good to use with VioLens
Modern Brawl Bug Fix - If you installed Smilodon and will not install "Imperious" and "Ordinator", you can install this. ("Blood texture" mod contains outdated fix).
Enhanced Blood Textures - You have to patch Immersive sounds after installing, click here.
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim - Install after Enhanced Blood Textures, overhaul of perk system, go back to Apocalypse magic and install patch. Also patch for Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes, click here.
Imperious - Races of Skyrim - Overhaul of racial abilities and powers
Lock Overhaul - install the Ordinator version
Skyrim Alchemy Fixed - Install after Ordinator (install Ordinator version)
Skyrim Skill Uncapper - After you install this mod, start the game, then close the game and install this patch for Ordinator - click here.
Realistic AI Detection SE (better sneaking) - Get version that goes well with your ELFX settings, if you feel sneaking is too easy/hard just install other version of this mod - you can do this with existing saves, no problem, get what you like.
Vampire improvement mods because they deserve some love
Vampire Lord Retexture
Supreme Vampire Lords
Vampire Lords Can Activate
One Optional Mod to close the list- Skyrim level/quest design is that dungeons dynamically adjust enemy level to match yours. MorrowLoot changes this design philosophy. It makes some dungeons to have a minimum level of enemies. It changes how the game feels - there are some more epic and scary dungeons you cant clear at early levels with this mod. Thats why I list it as optional. Read the mod description.
MorrowLoot Ultimate - you have to patch up "Immersive Sounds" after installation, click here. Also there is a lot of patch files in optionals: for Cutting Room Floor, Immersive Armors, Improved Closefaced Helmets and Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes - listed as WACCF
SO FAR 96 mods (note for myself ;) )
Mods I m Considering at the moment
Yes Im Sure - looks good
Improved Traps - checking compability (needs patch for Follower Trap Safety, issues with Mining Makes Noise?, possible conflict with MorrowLoot and Skill Uncapper??)
Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul - comparing with Skyrim Alchemy Fixed and looking into compatiblity and patching (Ordinator, Immersive Creatures and Skyrim is windy)**
Complete Crafting Overhaul Remastered - checking compability (needs patches for Cloaks of Skyrim, Immersive Armors, Immersive Weapons+WACCF and Ordinator+WACCF)**
**Both above mentioned mods (that is CACO and CCOR) needs quite some patching. I m thinking it through.
Better Vampires 8.5 SE - should vampires get even more love?
Load Order RecommendationsFiles in Skyrim game loads in certain order. Due to engine and compatibility reasons, its important to get load order right. Some mods depend on others, so they need to loaded after. Fortunately Mod Managers, like Vortex do this All for you! That means you dont have to think about it - most of the time. There is only exception I know at this moment: RSkyrimChildren.esm is placed before USSEP. Just place it right after it. Thats all.
- Lanterns of Skyrim - This mods edit many exterior cells of Skyrim, so the good loading order is right after "Update"
- Unofficial Skyrim Patch (or USSEP)
- DLCs and Unofficial patches
- ... All other mods
- Guard Dialogue Overhaul SE - Load after Immersive armors and Weapon
- Realistic AI Detection SE (after Immersive Citizens)
- Enhanced Blood Textures
- Ordinator (after CampFire and Enhanced Blood Textures (because of modern vs. old brawl bug fix))
- Imperious (after RaceMenu and Enhanced Blood Textures)
- Relationship Dialogue Overhaul (load after mods like Alternate Start)
- MorrowLoot (load last if possible)
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Ending remarksOnce again, dont forget to upvote mods you like, give some love for their creators, they deserve it. And you deserve a good time with game. Have a nice escape from reality. There is no corona in Skyrim :)
If you like and upvote it, you make me happy.