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Submission Why do people hate Jehovah's Witnesses?
Comments Why do people hate Jehovah's Witnesses?
Author foxdawnstar
Subreddit /religion
Posted On Thu Jul 09 18:55:30 UTC 2020
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They dont war, vote, cuss do drugs etc...

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Author PoopInMouthIsBad
Posted On Fri Jul 10 05:01:55 UTC 2020
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You’re a JW aren’t you?
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Author Namelesstruthseeker
Posted On Fri Jul 10 01:49:57 UTC 2020
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As someone raised in that religion. It strips you of personality. You are taught the world is under the devils control. All your friends not part of the religion will die at Armageddon. That is why JWs preach. If you are anything but heterosexual life is even worse. They are openly homophobic even though they profess they aren’t. Oh and as mentioned there is a huge pedophile problem within congregations (churches). Only the elders (sort of bishop in other churches) are told if someone has past incidents. All other people in the congregation are not told if someone is a pedophile. I could go on but it’s easy to search why JWs are hated.
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Author Lirille
Posted On Thu Jul 09 22:31:26 UTC 2020
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"Hate" is a bit of a strong word, but I'm not a big fan of proselytizing and peddling in general. Be it from JWs, hare krishnas, political parties, car salesmen... The fastest way to make me dismiss whatever you're saying outright is trying to sell me something I was not looking to buy.
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Author stilllovesjah
Posted On Fri Jul 10 01:28:26 UTC 2020
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Many people hate dangerous cults like Mormons, Moonies, Jehovah's Witnesses, or Scientologists. And for good reason!
Specifically for JWs, they're currently refusing to take responsibility for the 1000+ cases of pedophilia they covered up in Australia.
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Author Shihali
Posted On Thu Jul 09 19:28:41 UTC 2020
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A big one used to be, or still is, that Jehovah's Witnesses are against patriotism. They won't pledge allegiance to the flag and have gone to prison rather than serve in the national military when called up in the draft.
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Author papa_krush
Posted On Fri Jul 10 01:20:16 UTC 2020
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They won't salute the flag yet the president of this religion back in ww2 wrote a letter telling Hitler he was doing a swell job gathering up all the Jews....but then Hitler also went for the JW's so they don't like him no more lol
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Author rivermannX
Posted On Fri Jul 10 00:50:47 UTC 2020
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Where do you get that people hate Jehovah's Witnesses?
No one I know hates JWs. I hate the Organization.
They break up families. Meddle with UN and OSCE. Drink lots of alcohol. Protect pedophiles...
I've known my share that do "cuss" and "do drugs." Lot's of drugs. But they are real good at keeping it under wraps. All for "appearances" sake.
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Author NemoKeir
Posted On Thu Jul 09 20:48:40 UTC 2020
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I would assume it is because they aren't very relatable.
We like our violence. We like our drink. We like our vulgarity, and sex.
Jehovah Witness represent everything we aspire to be like, but never actually bother being like.
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Author RobotConvert
Posted On Fri Jul 10 02:24:22 UTC 2020
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Jehovah’s Witnesses are instructed to not read or watch anything that isn’t approved by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.
Wt, 6/1/1967, pg 338,
"...in Jehovah’s organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing."
[Tony Morris (2015 Annual Meeting)]Jehovah’s Witness Governing Body Member Tony Morris III telling Jehovah’s Witnesses to only stick with what they have approved.
here’s some info:
[JWFacts](http://jwfacts.com) is a great site that brings up the history and information of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.
YouTube has many former JWs also:
exJW Critical Thinker
exJW Analyzer
John Ceders (aka: Lloyd Evens)
StopTheShunning
Child rape/molestation/abuse info:
Below are links and short understanding of what the links are.
Australian Royal Commission Case Study 29: Jehovah’s Witnesses Jehovah’s Witnesses were not the only group that was investigated. See the main page to see other religious and non-religious groups who come in contact with children who were also investigated.
See page 58 of the PDF of case study 29 for the information on the 1,006 alleged perpetrators. You may also use the key word “1,006” in your search bar as well.
Video of Case Study 29
Shepherding the Flock of God book is for elders and those who are allowed to have this book. The rank and file and women aren’t allowed to have this book. This Letter for the Body of Elders concerning binding the elders book was sent from the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society as there was a lapse in elders allowing others to see this book, even just for binding it.
This is the latest Shepherding the Flock of God 2019 Edition. It wasn’t released at the time of the ARC, but it was leaked February 2019 and may be informative in what changes there are into comparison to the one released during the ARC.
Shepherding the Flock of God (April 2020 Edition)
Deeper into the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, the Branch Organization 2018 is a internal document that even local elders may not see.
Here’s the latest Watchtower Magazine Study Edition (May 2019). The link provided is the official link used by The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. See the article “Love and Justice in the Face of Wickedness” on child abuse. This article was studied by Jehovah’s Witnesses between July 1 to August 4, 2019.
Jehovah’s Witnesses shunning policy.
Watchtower Bible & Tract Societyown lawyer saying that disfellowshipping doesn’t break up families.
Longer video here.
Here’s a video (2:30 minute mark) at a annual meeting where a shunning video was released iirc.
So what the Jehovah’s Witnesses and their leaders at the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society are doing is saying publicly that shunning doesn’t break up families, but internally amongst the group it really does. It is used as a way to keep control.

No matter what false teachers say, we will not follow them! We have no reason to listen to people who are like wells with no water. Those who listen to them will be disappointed. We are determined to be loyal to Jehovah and to his organization. This organization has never disappointed us and always gives us an abundance of pure waters of truth from God’s Word. — Isaiah 55:1-3; Matthew 24:45 Watchtower 2011 July 15 p.12 para. 8 Simplified Ed.
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Author redditing_again
Posted On Fri Jul 10 18:19:12 UTC 2020
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Try asking a JW at your door whether they believe only JWs will survive Armageddon.
Then read the Oct. 2019 Study Edition, pg. 11, par. 14:
This means trying to motivate people to make the truth their own by applying what they learn, dedicating their life to Jehovah, and getting baptized. Only then will they survive Jehovah’s day.​
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Author Distinguished-Duck
Posted On Sat Jul 11 05:21:12 UTC 2020
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Regarding the first point, it's clear you're not familiar with what exactly the Royal Commission found. Because there was no police report for any of those cases. I encourage you to read the report.
It sounds like all you read is the sensationalized headline. To say none of the cases were reported is categorically false. You can go read the report yourself but here's some facts that contradict your claims right from the public inquiry's submission:
  • "383 alleged perpetrators had been dealt with by either police or secular authorities in the respective States or Territories in which they reside."
  • "Similarly, the case files record that 161 of the alleged perpetrators recorded in the files had been convicted of a child sexual abuse offence."
  • "There is no evidence before the Royal Commission that the Jehovah’s Witness organisation either had or did not have a role or any involvement in bringing to the attention of secular authorities any complaint of child sexual abuse that was investigated by secular authorities." Meaning they don't know who reported these because reporting is often done anonymously. But the bottom line is hundreds of the 1006 cases since 1950 were reported contrary to your assertion.
And instead choose to believe there's a global conspiracy to discredit your religion in spite of no evidence of that existing, well that's a level of blind faith I could never accept.
  • Blind faith would be believing uncorroborated and anonymous conjecture over clear written evidence to the contrary.
  • Blind faith would be believing a vocal anti-Witness group that clearly has an agenda to demonize an entire religion. You just have to see all the brigading that happens when Witnesses are mentioned in random subreddits as was the case in this very thread.
  • Blind faith would be believing a sensationalized headline over clear evidence to the contrary.
You also still haven't explained why you think it's OK for Jehovah's Witnesses to discriminate against women and gay people, or allow people to die when blood could save them.
What do you mean I still haven't explained these things? It's the first time you're mentioning it. Regardless, I won't take your bait and change the subject.
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Author lescannon
Posted On Fri Jul 10 00:53:12 UTC 2020
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Hate is too strong a word, but I dislike spending time with them.
I found many of them to be smugly obnoxious. For example, when I went to my grandmother's funeral service, at a Kingdom Hall, I was introduced to this one guy, roughly my own age. He asked if I believed in God. When I answered honestly that I do not, he said immediately in a very condescending manner, "Sure you do."
Sure, most religious think they are the most correct, but I have heard contempt or ridicule in the voices of many Jehovah's Witnesses for people who believe differently than they do.
When they knock at your door and you say "I am not interested in converting", they lie to you by saying something like "We're not here to convert you." They have the term "Theocratic Warfare" which justifies lying to people who do not have the right to know. The only way that I can think that they can think I don't have the right to an honest answer is if they don't respect me as a person at all - and I think that is largely the case.
They are also dishonest in discussions. They will say that they really want to hear what you have to say, but they really just want to argue their teachings, because they think they already know all the answers. They are not really interested in learning from people who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Author FugoRanshee
Posted On Sat Jul 11 17:15:21 UTC 2020
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Why do you say "they"? Aren't you a JW?
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Author 951753951753
Posted On Fri Jul 10 20:51:36 UTC 2020
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Seems like you are misinformed. Here is the PDF version of Millions Now Living Will Never Die a book published in 1920 written by your beloved J. F. Rutherford: https://www.jwfacts.com/publications/Millions_Now_Living_Will_Never_Die-33m.pdf

Have you read any of the Studies in the Scriptures volumes? They were written by Rutherford as far back as 1886 and the last volume was released in 1917 after his death. Obviously God wouldn't let Rutherford, the leader of the one true religion on earth, publish anything that was not guided by holy spirit. That makes it especially fun to learn that he was inspired to write that the year 1914 can be verified by taking measurements of the Great Pyramid in Giza. I bet you didn't know JWs used to believe that, did you? Of course, there was much more to learn about the world from the pyramids than just the 1914 year, so I'd recommend reading through them yourself. It's full of insane prophecy. Though you could purchase a set on eBay, most Kingdom Halls still have a set.
That's the kind of information the JWs won't continue to publish on their website.
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Author AccordingE
Posted On Fri Jul 10 03:14:13 UTC 2020
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They're more of a cult than religion. You are not allowed to think for yourself, if you become one all your actions are judged and in many cases disciplined (I was pulled into a back room over wearing a skirt that sat just above my knee at 17). If you decide to leave the whole community shuns you, and for people who were raised in it, this literally means every single person they know so leaving isn't always something they're confident enough to do.
Also as mentioned elsewhere they protect predators, look into the Australian Royal Commission which resulted in the "Redress" scheme to help victims of child sexual abuse received compensation and apologies for the institutions as fault literally every religion/organisation in the country except 6 joined, Jehovah's witnesses being one of them.
And I also speak from my own personal experience of reporting sexual abuse from an elder to the other elders, only to be pulled into a room with him and his wife to discuss the validity of my "claim" and be told I had no witnesses. He is still a Jehovah's Witness today.
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Author can-i-be-real
Posted On Fri Jul 10 02:10:50 UTC 2020
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I see. Thank you for your response.
So, If you were explaining disfellowshipping to a non-Witness, would you say, “Normal family relationships remain, with the exception of a spiritual relationship,” with no other qualifiers?
Edit: also, just a heads up, but I think you accidentally copy/pasted the same definition twice. I don’t think you meant to, but I know what you’re getting at.
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Author FugoRanshee
Posted On Fri Jul 10 01:41:16 UTC 2020
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They are very clear that a second witness is required only administering internal discipline. They state that dealing with crime is the responsibility of secular authorities. Are you complaining that they don’t disfellowship people without corroborating evidence?
Not at all. In my case, the fact that there was no internal administration of discipline was clearly meant to be the complete end of the matter. It was strongly implied, or directly told to everyone involved, including my parents and the parents of all the other victims of my perpetrator, who had also brought forward their own, separate cases, that the subject was closed. Anyone talking to secular authorities would be bringing reproach on Jehovah.
Luckily, I told a friend, who told his uncle, who then reported to police and the guy was jailed for molesting 15 boys.
Then he was disfellowshipped.
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Author can-i-be-real
Posted On Fri Jul 10 02:02:51 UTC 2020
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I’ll give it a shot, if you answer one question for me: If one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is disfellowshipped, would you explain it by saying that they will maintain normal family relationships, other than the accepted loss of a spiritual relationship as a consequence of their decisions?
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Author 951753951753
Posted On Fri Jul 10 20:37:17 UTC 2020
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Can you give some examples of lies that are told about JWs? You can start with just one.
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Author Distinguished-Duck
Posted On Sat Jul 11 06:05:15 UTC 2020
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I have no idea what you are quoting.
The report by the Commission -https://www.royalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/case_study_29_-_findings_report_-_`jehovahs_witnesses`.pdf
  • Page 60 states "383 alleged perpetrators had been dealt with by either police or secular authorities in the respective States or Territories in which they reside."
  • Page 60 further states: “Similarly, the case files record that 161 of the alleged perpetrators recorded in the files had been convicted of a child sexual abuse offence.”
  • Again on page 60: “There is no evidence before the Royal Commission that the Jehovah’s Witness organisation either had or did not have a role or any involvement in bringing to the attention of secular authorities any complaint of child sexual abuse that was investigated by secular authorities." Meaning they don't know who reported these because reporting is often done anonymously. But the bottom line is hundreds of the 1006 cases since 1950 were reported contrary to your assertion.
How do you reconcile what you're saying with what Jehovah's Witnesses themselves say? From the 2006 tract The End of False Religion Is Near: Even churches that condemn immorality have tolerated religious leaders who have sexually abused children. What, though, does the Bible teach? It plainly states: “Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.” This isn't taken out of context. It's literally calling religions that tolerate pedophiles "false religion".
They don’t tolerate abusers among the rank and file let alone their “leaders”. They actively excommunicate unrepentant sinners including abusers. They were able to provide the public inquiry in Australia such detailed information all the way back to 1950 because they want to keep their congregations clean. They also want to keep tabs so that any alleged abusers don’t turn up in another unsuspecting congregation. Whenever they appoint elders anywhere they check against this information to make sure abusers don’t rise to a position of authority - even if they abused someone before they were Witnesses. All of this proves they do the opposite of “tolerate” abusers.
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Author Metalfl8
Posted On Fri Jul 10 02:36:29 UTC 2020
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Jehovah's Witnesses harbor a persecution complex.
They have difficulty understanding they aren't the center of the universe and the vast majority of people either don't know they exist or confuse them with LDS. [Mormons]
And of coarse they [like many delusional paranoid groups] excuse legitimate criticism as "hateful".
Short answer..... Most people don't hate them even MANY former members. They just cry over every little "papercut" and need to "Adult" now as a group and repair the damage caused to victims of child abuse they mishandled for decades.
Other than that almost nobody cares about them anymore than a typically Evangelical Fundamentalist denomination.
🤷‍♂️
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Author can-i-be-real
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Since you know the context, You don’t think that statement is, at best, misleading. At worst, a lie? Can you explain how you come to view it as an accurate, honest explanation of disfellowshipping?
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Author FugoRanshee
Posted On Fri Jul 10 10:51:36 UTC 2020
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How do you know it isnt true? You said above that you arent a JW.
I am here, with the experience of being raised as a JW and trained in their tactics, telling you that this is exactly what they do.
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Author Distinguished-Duck
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It was strongly implied, or directly told to everyone involved, including my parents and the parents of all the other victims of my perpetrator, who had also brought forward their own, separate cases, that the subject was closed.
I find it interesting that you somehow know everything that was said between everyone involved including “all other victims”. I do know that the Watchtower organization has never discouraged victims from reporting child abuse to authorities in its entire existence. To the contrary, they’ve made it clear in their policies distributed to local Kingdom Halls that elders should never discourage anyone from reporting child abuse.
I don’t put any weight on anonymous stories from anti-witness crusaders like yours. You are welcome to show anything written by Watchtower that discourages reporting abuse though, if in fact your allegation is true.
edit: I have noted that you were not able to show any evidence, only wild fanciful stories being told anonymously. BTW, brigading is against reddit rules so telling all your anti witness friends to come and downvote me is not appropriate.
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Author KazenoIgnis
Posted On Fri Jul 10 05:28:43 UTC 2020
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No, but it's complicit in them. The watchtower society and Witness organization encourage door to door proselytizing. They regularly cover up abuse from elders towards children and I've talked personally to more than few women who ran away from home as teens to avoid being forced into marriage at 16 to a much older man; this is legal in many states with parents permission.
And my friend whose an active witness actually told me that many of his fellow adherents are alcoholitics. You also did not deny the white supremacist aspect. They may have changed their time, but that was well after most of the mainstream Christians did.
I find it hilarious that you're trying to defend the religion against these things when they're pretty well-known problems. If you're a Jehovah's witness, you would actually be better off working to try and change the organization from the inside. However that's not exactly easily done because the organization is pretty insular and unless you fully commit to their hivemind then you can't really progress beyond a local elder.
I don't like most atheists but the guy Telltale on YouTube discusses his experiences as an ex-JW rather well.
Frankly I don't treat the local Jehovah's witnesses badly, but I'm on their list of people not to approach because I don't want to be bothered. It took a few tries though including a complaint to their local Kingdom Hall from my attorney.
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Author redditing_again
Posted On Fri Jul 10 19:50:29 UTC 2020
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Let me just ask you two questions:
  • Who do JWs believe will survive Armageddon?
  • Do JW's believe that the quote in the WT I cited is correct?
I mean, if I can't select a clearly-written paragraph from a recent Watchtower to prove my point for fear of being called out for quote-mining, what can I do instead? After giving talks of all kinds for years, I can say that I was literally trained as a Witness to quote-mine, if that's what you want to call it. Seriously, isn't that how most talks work? A selection of chosen 'mined quotes' from the Bible and other publications are chosen and explained to create a talk? I'm not saying it's wrong--I think it's a fair way to make a presentation whether as a Witness or for secular reasons. I'm not sure why you'd criticize me for it, honestly.
And I'm really not trying to be dishonest or start an argument, or even be difficult, and I don't want to argue, but I would like to understand your point. My point is that I think Witnesses and many other people, religious and non-religious, obscure their true viewpoints when asked by newcomers. I'm not singling out Witnesses by any means, but that's what this topic happened to be examining.
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Author FugoRanshee
Posted On Fri Jul 10 23:39:47 UTC 2020
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The task set was to name a single publication from watchtower that is not on their site, which i provided. Expecting someone to react in the way that you have with this response, i added "...for starters."
I'm no activist. I'm just someone who's life was nearly destroyed by this toxic cult, but I have managed to regain control of my life and move on. This is despite the loss of my mother (among other family - according to my definition - members) and the sadness that comes with knowing how difficult that is for her and knowing that she has spent the last 30yrs of her life forcing herself to believe that this cult is "the truth", because if it's not, if she's wrong, she has removed her firstborn son from her life for nothing.
And that is what she has done, because we are talking about just another obscure American cult that popped up in the late 1800s, based on a foundation of bullshit and from a time when everyone was buying snake oil.
But I am no activist. There are others who will list publications for you if you like, that you'll never be told about at jw.borg.
If you're actually willing to listen to their answers though, why make them do all the work?
Just go to jwfacts.com and read for yourself. It's all there, it's all real, and sticking your head in the sand won't change that! Ex-JWs and non-JWs are able to freely read the old watchtower publications, see all the scandals the cult has been involved in and read the many, many doctrinal changes they've made over the years, so really, you're just doing yourself a disservice by not viewing the material from both sides of the argument.
Edit: and i am only suggesting that site because it is the most comprehensive that i know of, but unlike the governing body, who openly discourage independant thought, i would encourage you to use google or youtube to freely seek out information. Determine for yourself what is and isn't true, using your own rational and logical thought processes.
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Author 951753951753
Posted On Fri Jul 10 21:14:27 UTC 2020
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Here is the PDF version of Millions Now Living Will Never Die a book published in 1920 and written by J. F. Rutherford: https://www.jwfacts.com/publications/Millions_Now_Living_Will_Never_Die-33m.pdf
Take a look at page 89 of the book under the heading EARTHLY RULERS. Here's a quote:
As we have heretofore stated, the great jubilee cycle is due to begin in 1925. At that time the earthly phase of the kingdom shall be recognized.
Was this book inspired by holy spirit to be written? If yes, then how much of that book is still true? If no, then why did God allow it to be written if the IBSA was his chosen people?
You can't say this organization is transparent to outsiders when it's obvious that people who are currently JWs don't know about all of their own failed prophecies.
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Author can-i-be-real
Posted On Fri Jul 10 03:22:30 UTC 2020
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Anyone that isn’t related to JWs must just be like “What are these two morons even taking about?” Lol
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Author Metalfl8
Posted On Fri Jul 10 04:11:51 UTC 2020
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Not strange at all.....Shepherd the Flock of God is a "how to" book to legally cover their arse.
I don't care what you believe to be true....only what is in fact demonstrably true.
I have the necessary degrees and license to be qualified to make the proper decisions and have been professional tested to insure that is the case in regards to Law Enforcement. You don't have to say the same but must at least be a reasonable person to converse with and open to discussion.
Word smithing in self published biased denominational literature doesn't qualify as a reliable source.
I don't care if someone wants to be Jdub.
I don't care about your discomfort with the fact a Watchtower means nothing in reality and public records of court cases disproving your rediculous assertions are easily acquired in disturbingly large numbers.
That's a persomal issue....my blood pressure hasn't even gone up but it used to fluctuate like I assume yours is now.
That's called cognitive dissonance....I suggest researching Epistemology.
Im neither DA or DFd by the way....openly apostate athiest. I'm not an attorney but have enough education and an excellent one on retainer to legally block them.
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Author Jephord
Posted On Fri Jul 10 03:37:52 UTC 2020
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I know a different feeling than most here.
I was, until about 6 months ago a baptized Jehovah’s Witness. The organization has taken my 38years of accumulated friends, family and life. I am no longer to associate with them. They are not allowed or they'll suffer the same fate.
If anyone has a reason to hate Jehovah's Witnesses it's me. Yet, I love them. All of them.
I wish the leadership wasn't so deceitful and hypocritical. They lead these people, (in my opinion knowingly) to sacrifice their lives to the organization. They place themselves in the place of Jesus in most every way. Loyalty to the "governing body", 8 self proclaimed "chosen by God" men, is absolutely necessary to gain salvation and please God. They set the rules. They set, and constantly change doctrine. As is needed as time passes, along with the failure of prophecies.
They hold an extreme view of the Bible and enforce policy that is both abusive, mysoginistic, psychologically damaging, and deadly. Among other things. They are involved in a massive world wide sexual abuse cover up scandal, yet... most JW's don't even know!!
They are constantly told that the world is against them and apostates led by Satan are spreading false lies. The leaders dictate their every habit. No research outside of the Watchtower publications. Avoid social media. Set time limits on watching news, recreation and leisure. Do all you can for the organization. Only then will you gain salvation by jumping through the hoops.
Time in preaching HAS to be submitted in order to remain a member, or "publisher". Every month. And by the way....here's how to donate to us. :handout: And too, don't try to gain an education of any kind outside of high school, (don't gain critical thinking skills) but donate donate donate.
Recently, The Superior Court in Zurich said that the accusational statement "the JW organization violates human rights as well as harms children" is in fact true. Proven by evidence before the court. Watchtower chose to *not appeal after reading the final judgement. They are the LAST ones to let a judgement like this go. They fight to the death. But, it was indefensible and was drawing too much attention.
But, I love Jehovah's Witnesses. My wife is one too. I know them to be good, kinda, honest and loving people, until they must shun past members. They are so brainwashed by the leaders that they will cause a mother to walk by her child in a hall and never acknowledge they exist.
Please don't hate Jehovah's Witnesses. Hate the game.
If anyone wants sources for any of what I said, please ask.
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Author Distinguished-Duck
Posted On Fri Jul 10 05:51:10 UTC 2020
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I didn’t my brother did. They did go to the Kingdom Hall. My brorther never told wha happenned then.
You brother never told you what happened when he went to the police? I thought you said “they swept it all under the rug”? Sounds like a fanciful tale to bolster your anti Witness crusade.
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Author Jephord
Posted On Fri Jul 10 05:12:08 UTC 2020
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Let everyone judge for themselves as to whether or not the lawyer lied.
You are all over reddit putting out fires for JW's yet you conveniently never address this video. I know you don't want anyone to watch it because it decimates your whole false narrative around here and you don't want to have to start a 6th new account. So you don't draw attention to yourself in relation to it.
Watch it here
EDIT: 🦗🦗🦗 <----Those are crickets
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Author NewbombTurk
Posted On Thu Jul 09 21:21:08 UTC 2020
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I don’t hate Jehovah Witnesses as individuals (at least not because they’re JWs. But, I’m sure some of them are assholes).
But, I am very much against the religion. It’s a destructive cult that preys on poor people and minorities.
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